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Small docs suggestions

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Jeff
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Re: Small docs suggestions

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https://docs.rainmeter.net/manual/measures/webparser/#ProxyServer

1. With IE being phase out, the /auto option will probably stop working on Windows 11, correct?
If all of a sudden the proxy settings get converted from the IE settings to the new Settings window (like MS would ever warn you about that), I don't think it will be a problem, but in case it DOES happen to be phased out and MS to not create pointers for those, just wanted to give a heads-up

2. You guys say This must be set in a [WebParser.dll] section in Rainmeter.data. but the snippet is literally copy pasted from the code box above without any change, so the example there doesn't make sense if you copy paste it in Rainmeter.data as well
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Re: Small docs suggestions

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Jeff wrote: October 1st, 2021, 4:16 pm 1. With IE being phase out, the /auto option will probably stop working on Windows 11, correct?
If all of a sudden the proxy settings get converted from the IE settings to the new Settings window (like MS would ever warn you about that), I don't think it will be a problem, but in case it DOES happen to be phased out and MS to not create pointers for those, just wanted to give a heads-up
We will update this once Windows 11 comes out. Even if IE does not exist on Windows 11, they will have to have these settings "somewhere". With Windows 10 (and prior versions), you can get to these settings via the internet options control panel item inetcpl.cpl without having to open IE at all.

Jeff wrote: October 1st, 2021, 4:16 pm 2. You guys say This must be set in a [WebParser.dll] section in Rainmeter.data. but the snippet is literally copy pasted from the code box above without any change, so the example there doesn't make sense if you copy paste it in Rainmeter.data as well
I fixed this. We recently changed both ProxyServer and UserAgent to use [Webparser] (without the ".dll") in Rainmeter.data, but the old way still works. Thanks for the heads up!

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Brian wrote: October 3rd, 2021, 7:47 pm We will update this once Windows 11 comes out. Even if IE does not exist on Windows 11, they will have to have these settings "somewhere". With Windows 10 (and prior versions), you can get to these settings via the internet options control panel item inetcpl.cpl without having to open IE at all.

inetcpl.cpl is still supported in Windows 11. In addition, this can be changed directly in Settings, now that Internet Explorer is entirely gone in Windows. There are "stubs" for iexplore.exe in Windows 11, but they simply run Microsoft Edge.


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Re: Small docs suggestions

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Understood (from both of you)!
I expected Internet Explorer to be just the most simple HTTP protocol and that on top of it settings were built like extensions, that's why I imagined something crucial like proxy settings would be built on IE without any thought from Microsoft.
That means I'll have to edit an announcement since there's misleading info in it now :v
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Hey, while I am here, will the Important Links section ever get updated?

I'm asking because, since it was last updated, there have been a few new additions. Right now it's divided like:
- Other communities: DeviantART, /r/Rainmeter, Lifehacker (which has been infested by RainmeterBase)
- Text editors (and extensions): Notepad++, RainLexer, Sublime Text 2 Editor, Sublime Rainmeter
- External dependencies: AutoIT, NirCmd, Core Temp, SpeedFan
- Fonts: DaFont

While it does the job, there have been quite a lot of developments, for each category you now should have as well:
- Text editors (and extensions): VS Code and extension, Atom and marcopixel's extension (person who beautified the docs and home page)
- External dependencies: HWiNFO (surprised it's not there), AutoHotKey (saying this because as of recently death.crafter, Jax and khanhas have made popular skins (Keystrokes by Jax and death.crafter; Polybar/Notch by khanhas, which is also featured on the front page) that use it), Python 3.5 (this one is very rigid, there is a small number of people that use Python and the Python Script Plugin, so add this only if you're confident it will be used)
- Fonts: Google Fonts, NerdFonts

While most likely not a lot of people access that portion of the forum, it would still be nice to bring it up to times with new changes with community changes (I'm speculating that AutoIT being there and the random AutoIT example in the plugins page may conclude that the section was only modified ever by one singular dev when it was first made)
If it helps, maybe in the future the Rainmeter Docs would also have a similar section (if the Important Links section on the forum is not accessed at all)
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Oh, and I just remembered, on the Rainmeter Discord (enter at your own risk, young adults invaded the place) where people are more focused on how stuff looks (by extension the same happens on reddit), we also have an extension of too many wallpaper sites, we should modify it too to be similar to the Important Links section on the forum, but this is what we have
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RainmeterBase seems to be gone, which is fine by me...
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jsmorley wrote: October 9th, 2021, 3:08 pm RainmeterBase seems to be gone, which is fine by me...
Yeah, "gone"
What about the other suggestions?
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Jeff wrote: October 9th, 2021, 4:08 pm Yeah, "gone"
What about the other suggestions?
I will revisit that "Important Links" area soon...