shredder81 wrote:is there a easy way to define them or is it all mostly guess work
For the most part, unless you are using StringAlign=RIGHT or CENTER you don't need W and H on a string meter. (even then you don't absolutely need them) X and Y should be enough in almost all cases. The exception is when you are using ClipString=1 and want text to "wrap". Then H and W arer really required to get that working correctly. On a string meter, H can "sorta" be figured out as there is a formula (I think it is 1 font "point" = 1.75 pixels, but don't hold me to that, it varies a bit depending on the DPI of the device) but W is going to be based more on esthetics, how you want your skin to look, than on any formula.