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Arkan Tab/Everyday - Drive Info

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xlep
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Joined: August 4th, 2010, 3:35 pm

Arkan Tab/Everyday - Drive Info

Post by xlep »

hey,
I'm pretty new to rainmeter so please don't hold this to me if it's a dumb question. I installed Rainmaker some days ago and since then, played around with some skins. Basically I use the major part of Deepoks Everyday Theme (http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/sysmonitor/rainmeter/?qh=&section=&q=everyday#/d2r25do).

here's my Problem:
I have got 4 hard drives and wanted to edit the "drive info" part so it shows 4 drives instead of one. The drive info skin is (obviously) the left one on the bottom. Additionaly to what you can see in the deviantart screen, it creates a detailed info of all drives on mouseclick.
I managed to get all 4 drives shown in the "normal state" of the skin, but have problems with the detailed info of the fourth drive. For now its shown at the same spot as the third drive info, but that isn't my problem (should be an easy fix by editing some of the coordinates, heights etc.).
What I can't seem to fix is the following: When I first click the skin to show detailed information (first time after reload/startup) the fourth drive is drawn like expected but if doesn't disappear when I click on the label again (like the other drives + background etc do).

here's the original version of the .ini
;=======================================================================================
;
; Arkan Tab for Rainmeter
; Drive Information
; http://aidaaah.deviantart.com
;
;=======================================================================================


[Rainmeter]
Author=aidaaah@rocketmail.com
AppVersion=1.1
Update=60000

MouseOverAction=!Execute [!RainmeterMoveMeter 0 200 Overlay1][!RainmeterRedraw]
MouseLeaveAction=!Execute [!RainmeterMoveMeter -221 -201 Overlay1][!RainmeterRedraw]


[Metadata]
Name=Drive Information | Bottom
Config=ArkanTab | Drive Info | Drive - Bottom
Description=Drive Information
Instructions=Change drive letters in [Variable] section.
Version=1.0
Tags=Drive | Information | Arkan | Tab | aidaaah | ;)
License=Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 3.0
Preview=#SKINSPATH#Arkan Tab\Preview.png


;=======================================================================================


[Variables]
ShowAll=[!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram1][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram1X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram2][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram2X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram3][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram3X][!RainmeterShowMeter Line][!RainmeterShowMeter Click1][!RainmeterShowMeter Click2][!RainmeterShowMeter Click3]
HideAll=[!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram1][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram1X][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram2][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram2X][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram3][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram3X][!RainmeterHideMeter Line][!RainmeterHideMeter Click1][!RainmeterHideMeter Click2][!RainmeterHideMeter Click3]

Drive1=C:
Drive2=D:
Drive3=G:

Color1=255,255,255,255
Color2=255,255,255,150

[Style]
FontColor=255,255,255,255
FontSize=6
StringAlign=LEFT
StringStyle=NORMAL
FontFace=AvantGarde LT Medium
AntiAlias=1


;=======================================================================================
;Measure Section
;=======================================================================================


[MeasureHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive1#

[MeasureHDD1x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive1#

[MeasureLabelHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1

[MeasureHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureHDD2x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureLabelHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Drive=#Drive2#
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive3#

[MeasureHDD3x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive3#

[MeasureLabelHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Drive=#Drive3#
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1
Drive=#Drive3#

[BGRing]
Measure=Calc
Formula=360



;=======================================================================================
;Background Section
;=======================================================================================

[Tab]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=200
ImageName=bot20i.png
H=20
W=200

[Overlay1]
Meter=IMAGE
X=-221
Y=-201
ImageName=overlay.png
H=20
W=200
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [!RainmeterHideMeter Overlay1][!RainmeterHideMeter MainInfo1][!RainmeterHideMeter MainInfo2][!RainmeterShowMeter Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Overlay2][!RainmeterShowMeter Background]#ShowAll#[!RainmeterRedraw]

[Overlay2]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=200
ImageName=overlay.png
H=20
W=200
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [!RainmeterShowMeter Overlay1][!RainmeterShowMeter MainInfo1][!RainmeterShowMeter MainInfo2][!RainmeterHideMeter Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Overlay2][!RainmeterHideMeter Background]#HideAll#[!RainmeterRedraw]

[Background]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=0
ImageName=bot200.png
H=200
W=200
Hidden=1

[MainInfo1]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD2
MeasureName3=MeasureHDD3
Meter=STRING
X=100
Y=205
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
StringAlign=CENTER
Percentual=1
Text=" #Drive1#\ %1% #Drive2#\ %2% #Drive3#\ %3%"

[Label]
Meter=STRING
X=100
Y=205
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
StringAlign=CENTER
StringEffect=SHADOW
Text=Drive Information
Hidden=1



;=======================================================================================
;Meter Section
;=======================================================================================


[Drive1Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD1
X=10
Y=30
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
Text="%1 [#Drive1#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive1Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD1
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive1Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD1X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram1]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
X=170
Y=44
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]

[Piegram1X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]

[Click1]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=30
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]
Hidden=1

[Drive2Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD2
X=10
Y=78
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
AutoScale=1
Text="%1 [#Drive2#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive2Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD2
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive2Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD2
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD2X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram2]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD2
X=170
Y=94
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Piegram2X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Click2]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=80
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive2#]
Hidden=1

[Drive3Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD3
X=10
Y=131
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
AutoScale=1
Text="%1 [#Drive3#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive3Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD3
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive3Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD3
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD3X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram3]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD3
X=170
Y=146
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Piegram3X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Click3]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=130
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive3#]
Hidden=1
and this is my edited one:
;=======================================================================================
;
; Arkan Tab for Rainmeter
; Drive Information
; http://aidaaah.deviantart.com
;
;=======================================================================================


[Rainmeter]
Author=aidaaah@rocketmail.com
AppVersion=1.1
Update=60000

MouseOverAction=!Execute [!RainmeterMoveMeter 0 200 Overlay1][!RainmeterRedraw]
MouseLeaveAction=!Execute [!RainmeterMoveMeter -221 -201 Overlay1][!RainmeterRedraw]


[Metadata]
Name=Drive Information | Bottom
Config=ArkanTab | Drive Info | Drive - Bottom
Description=Drive Information
Instructions=Change drive letters in [Variable] section.
Version=1.0
Tags=Drive | Information | Arkan | Tab | aidaaah | ;)
License=Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 3.0
Preview=#SKINSPATH#Arkan Tab\Preview.png


;=======================================================================================


[Variables]
ShowAll=[!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive1Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram1][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram1X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive2Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram2][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram2X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive3Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram3][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram3X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram4][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram4X][!RainmeterShowMeter Line][!RainmeterShowMeter Click1][!RainmeterShowMeter Click2][!RainmeterShowMeter Click3][!RainmeterShowMeter Click4]
HideAll=[!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive1Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram1][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram1X][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive2Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram2][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram2X][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Total][!RainmeterHideMeter Drive3Usage][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram3][!RainmeterHideMeter Piegram3X][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Total][!RainmeterShowMeter Drive4Usage][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram4][!RainmeterShowMeter Piegram4X][!RainmeterHideMeter Line][!RainmeterHideMeter Click1][!RainmeterHideMeter Click2][!RainmeterHideMeter Click3][!RainmeterShowMeter Click4]

Drive1=C:
Drive2=D:
Drive3=E:
Drive4=F:

Color1=255,255,255,255
Color2=255,255,255,150

[Style]
FontColor=255,255,255,255
FontSize=6
StringAlign=LEFT
StringStyle=NORMAL
FontFace=AvantGarde LT Medium
AntiAlias=1


;=======================================================================================
;Measure Section
;=======================================================================================


[MeasureHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive1#

[MeasureHDD1x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive1#

[MeasureLabelHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD1]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1

[MeasureHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureHDD2x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureLabelHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Drive=#Drive2#
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD2]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1
Drive=#Drive2#

[MeasureHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive3#

[MeasureHDD3x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive3#

[MeasureLabelHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Drive=#Drive3#
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD3]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1
Drive=#Drive3#

[MeasureHDD4]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=1
Drive=#Drive4#

[MeasureHDD4x]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
InvertMeasure=0
Drive=#Drive4#

[MeasureLabelHDD4]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Label=1
Drive=#Drive4#
Substitute="":"Local Disk"

[MeasureTotalHDD4]
Measure=FreeDiskSpace
Total=1
Drive=#Drive4#

[BGRing]
Measure=Calc
Formula=360



;=======================================================================================
;Background Section
;=======================================================================================

[Tab]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=200
ImageName=bot20i.png
H=20
W=200

[Overlay1]
Meter=IMAGE
X=-221
Y=-201
ImageName=overlay.png
H=20
W=200
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [!RainmeterHideMeter Overlay1][!RainmeterHideMeter MainInfo1][!RainmeterHideMeter MainInfo2][!RainmeterShowMeter Label][!RainmeterShowMeter Overlay2][!RainmeterShowMeter Background]#ShowAll#[!RainmeterRedraw]

[Overlay2]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=200
ImageName=overlay.png
H=20
W=200
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [!RainmeterShowMeter Overlay1][!RainmeterShowMeter MainInfo1][!RainmeterShowMeter MainInfo2][!RainmeterHideMeter Label][!RainmeterHideMeter Overlay2][!RainmeterHideMeter Background]#HideAll#[!RainmeterRedraw]

[Background]
Meter=IMAGE
X=0
Y=0
ImageName=bot200.png
H=200
W=200
Hidden=1

[MainInfo1]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD2
MeasureName3=MeasureHDD3
MeasureName4=MeasureHDD4
Meter=STRING
X=100
Y=205
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
StringAlign=CENTER
Percentual=1
Text=" #Drive1#\ %1% #Drive2#\ %2% #Drive3#\ %3% #Drive4#\ %4%"

[Label]
Meter=STRING
X=100
Y=205
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
StringAlign=CENTER
StringEffect=SHADOW
Text=Drive Information
Hidden=1



;=======================================================================================
;Meter Section
;=======================================================================================


[Drive1Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD1
X=10
Y=30
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
Text="%1 [#Drive1#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive1Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD1
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive1Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD1X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram1]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD1
X=170
Y=44
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]

[Piegram1X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]

[Click1]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=30
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive1#]
Hidden=1

[Drive2Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD2
X=10
Y=78
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
AutoScale=1
Text="%1 [#Drive2#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive2Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD2
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive2Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD2
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD2X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram2]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD2
X=170
Y=94
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Piegram2X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Click2]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=80
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive2#]
Hidden=1

[Drive3Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD3
X=10
Y=131
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
AutoScale=1
Text="%1 [#Drive3#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive3Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD3
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive3Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD3
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD3X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram3]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD3
X=170
Y=146
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Piegram3X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Click3]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=130
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive3#]
Hidden=1

[Drive4Label]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureLabelHDD4
X=10
Y=131
MeterStyle=Style
FontSize=7
AutoScale=1
Text="%1 [#Drive4#]"
Hidden=1

[Drive4Total]
MeasureName=MeasureTotalHDD4
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Total Size %1B"
Hidden=1

[Drive4Usage]
MeasureName=MeasureHDD4
MeasureName2=MeasureHDD4X
Meter=STRING
X=r
Y=12r
MeterStyle=Style
AutoScale=1
Text="Used %1B | Free %2B"
Hidden=1

[Piegram4]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=MeasureHDD4
X=170
Y=146
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=12
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color1#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Piegram4X]
Meter=ROUNDLINE
MeasureName=BgRing
X=r
Y=r
LineWidth=5.0
LineLength=14
LineStart=0
StartAngle=4.7124
AntiAlias=1
LineColor=#Color2#
Solid=1
Hidden=1

[Click4]
Meter=IMAGE
X=155
Y=130
W=30
H=30
SolidColor=0,0,0,1
LeftMouseDownAction=!Execute [#Drive4#]
Hidden=1
I'd post just a part if I'd know where the problem is but I honestly got no clue, since I only have limited experience in programming and "manual" editing of files like these. As far as I understand the file the error should be in the ShowAll/HideAll part, but I don't understand why the fourth drive behaves differently than the others.

Hope someone can help a desperate newbie ;)