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Youkai1977
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Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

Post by Youkai1977 »

Hello everybody,

Is something known about the Rainmeter (from version 4.2) is no longer with skins, the CPU data (clock, individual cores utilization) and drives (free space, read and write access) queries.
Have since tonight suddenly just with this kind of skin problems. If these are also downloaded during the Rainmeter start, or if the folders with the mentioned skins are only (inactive) in the Skin folder, Rainmeter smears me off.
Have already updated to the 4.3 beta, but the problem remains. Even a complete uninstall of Rainmeter and reinstall did not fix the problem.
Must now always completely remove the CPU and drive skins. Only then does Rainmeter run.
This morning, everything was fine with exactly these skins.

My system:
Rainmeter 4.3 Beta (64Bit)
Windows 7 (64 bit)
16GB Ram

Image

PS .: sorry for my bad english (text translated to english by google translator)
- Win11 Pro x64 (23H2 - 22631.3085)
- Rainmeter 4.5.18
- Gigabyte B550i AORUS Pro AX V1.2
- Corsair Venegeance LPX 2x 16GB (32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
- RYZEN 7 5800X
- PowerColor RX570 8GB
- Samsung 980Pro 250GB (NVMe) - Drive C: Windows
- Kingston SNV2S1000G (NVMe) - Drive D: Rainmeter, Skins & Others - Drive D: Games
- NAS Synology DS216j - 2x 1GB HDDs - My Main Backup & Data Storage in my Home-Network
- Mon 1: 24" HP 24f (1920 x 1080 @ 75Hz) - Primary
- Mon 2: 22" Philips 226VL (1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 1
- Mon 3: 50" Philips 50PUS7304/12 (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 2
- Corsair CX 650M Power Supply
- NZXT H210 Case
- ISP Vodafone with 1000/50 Mbit Cable Internet

The absolutly High-End Machine on 2024 ... at least the graphics card :oops: O.O :rofl:
rxtd
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

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Youkai1977 wrote: November 2nd, 2018, 10:34 pm
Hi, Youkai1977.
Can you please post skins that cause the problem or give a link where they can be downloaded?
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Youkai1977
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

Post by Youkai1977 »

Here you are :-)
I hope it works that way, have it only as * .zip and not as * .rmskin file

CPU-and-Drive-Skins
- Win11 Pro x64 (23H2 - 22631.3085)
- Rainmeter 4.5.18
- Gigabyte B550i AORUS Pro AX V1.2
- Corsair Venegeance LPX 2x 16GB (32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
- RYZEN 7 5800X
- PowerColor RX570 8GB
- Samsung 980Pro 250GB (NVMe) - Drive C: Windows
- Kingston SNV2S1000G (NVMe) - Drive D: Rainmeter, Skins & Others - Drive D: Games
- NAS Synology DS216j - 2x 1GB HDDs - My Main Backup & Data Storage in my Home-Network
- Mon 1: 24" HP 24f (1920 x 1080 @ 75Hz) - Primary
- Mon 2: 22" Philips 226VL (1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 1
- Mon 3: 50" Philips 50PUS7304/12 (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 2
- Corsair CX 650M Power Supply
- NZXT H210 Case
- ISP Vodafone with 1000/50 Mbit Cable Internet

The absolutly High-End Machine on 2024 ... at least the graphics card :oops: O.O :rofl:
rxtd
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

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Youkai1977 wrote: November 3rd, 2018, 1:16 pm
Unfortunately, I don't have any problems with these skins. I, however, use win10, not win7.
I can't resolve the problem if I can't reproduce it.
I have few hypotheses for what may cause troubles:
- Corrupted Rainmeter.ini.
- Corrupted Rainmeter binaries (including plugins).
- Something wrong with files in file system.
- Something related to Windows.
All four do not seem to be plausible in your case if you ask me.

Although I'm not a Rainmeter dev, I don't think that it is possible to resolve your issue without more or less complete access to your computer :confused: Well, unless some of the devs will also have issues with these skins.
It may be possible to find what causes the issue if you post all files on your computed that are related to Rainmeter. Or may be not. I don't know.

You could try to hunt down the problem as I would do if I had it on my computer:
1) Rename file to something but .ini.
2) Rename it back and remove all content from skin .ini file.
3) Add part of skin file contents back.
4) Repeat step 3.
And try to launch Rainmeter after every step.
If you have crash after 1st step: that's strange, I don't think Rainmeter even scans non-.ini files (and not fonts) in skins folder.
If you have crash after 2nd step: that's strange, Rainmeter should have no problems with blank files.
If you have crash after 3rd or 4th step: congrats, you have found a problematic part, now remove it, break it into smaller parts, and repeat step 3.

Post results here, maybe I will be able to recognize the problem.

P.S. Please, post files here next time you need to share something. File sharing services are very inconvenient. You can just drag file into reply field in the browser.
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

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Hi,

First of all thank you for the informative answer.
So I have the advice to create the * .ini file once again and then followed by inserting a code snippet after the other there.
Thereafter always Rainmeter always restarted. Except for an error message that the * .in file contains no "meters" and is therefore disabled, nothing happened and Rainmeter ran normally.
But no sooner had I inserted the first "meter" in the * ini file (in this case, a simple meter for the background) and I restarted Rainmeter .... ZACK !!! Rainmeter crashed at the restart immediately.
Have then the corresponding meters also reduced so far, until the code looks like this:

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[Background]
Meter=Image
That was enough to kill my Rainmeter on reboot.

In short, I am finished with my Latin. Especially because this issue only affects my two skins posted here. Everyone else is running wonderfully. And these are much more complicated on the part of the program code than the simple CPU and drives meter.

Here again shortly what I have done so far to try to eliminate the problem:

- Rainmeter 4.2 completely uninstalled. Incl. All folders and files on the hard drive / installation directory

- Manual deletion of all found registry entries

- Rainmeter 4.3 Beta reinstalled

- Your tip now followed here

But the mistake remains ... :17angry


As for the posting of files directly here in the forum, did not know that it works. Therefore, the detour via a Filehoster.
But thanks for the tip
Last edited by balala on November 3rd, 2018, 5:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- Win11 Pro x64 (23H2 - 22631.3085)
- Rainmeter 4.5.18
- Gigabyte B550i AORUS Pro AX V1.2
- Corsair Venegeance LPX 2x 16GB (32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
- RYZEN 7 5800X
- PowerColor RX570 8GB
- Samsung 980Pro 250GB (NVMe) - Drive C: Windows
- Kingston SNV2S1000G (NVMe) - Drive D: Rainmeter, Skins & Others - Drive D: Games
- NAS Synology DS216j - 2x 1GB HDDs - My Main Backup & Data Storage in my Home-Network
- Mon 1: 24" HP 24f (1920 x 1080 @ 75Hz) - Primary
- Mon 2: 22" Philips 226VL (1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 1
- Mon 3: 50" Philips 50PUS7304/12 (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 2
- Corsair CX 650M Power Supply
- NZXT H210 Case
- ISP Vodafone with 1000/50 Mbit Cable Internet

The absolutly High-End Machine on 2024 ... at least the graphics card :oops: O.O :rofl:
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

Post by balala »

Youkai1977, I downloaded and installed your package and have no problems with it at all. To be honest, I didn't understand what is the problem with those skins, which are working well for me.
From my experience I can say that usually an uninstall and reinstall of Rainmeter doesn't help. Never does in my opinion.
So, could you please give us a few details about the problem caused by those skins?

EDIT: Sorry I'm bit late, it seems...
rxtd
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

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Youkai1977 wrote: November 3rd, 2018, 4:23 pm [Background]
Meter=Image

That was enough to kill my Rainmeter on reboot.
Wow. I have no idea what can cause this.

By the way, if all other skins work well, did you try to just rename skin or move it to another folder? If the existence of the skin itself causes crash but only for certain skins then maybe if it will be some other skin with the same content everything will work?
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

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Youkai1977 wrote: November 3rd, 2018, 4:23 pm

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[Background]
Meter=Image
That was enough to kill my Rainmeter on reboot.
To be honest, I doubt this.
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

Post by Youkai1977 »

Thanks @all for your answers.

So after I was as baffled as most of you, why my Rainmeter smears, even if only two lines of a background meter in the * .ini are and all the other tips did not help, I've tried the following:

- 1: I used to load older CPU and Drives * .ini, from older skins that I still had. Curiously, then exactly the same error occurred. Rainmeter smeared me off.

- 2: I suspected my AV program (Avast Free). This has often played tricks on my system in the past. So this time test disabled. But nothing ... Rainmeter went on strike anyway

Then I was tired and have ...

- 3: A two-month old backup of my Windows played back and as it seems so far (sometimes fast knock on wood) run the two meters (CPU & Drives) again.

Have these inserted into Rainmeter after the backup play back and Rainmeter started, stopped, started and so on.
And so far ... toi toi

Only now can I first update my system. The backup was a little bit old.
But no matter, as long as my Rainmeter runs clean again.

Yeah, what would the Windows world be without Rainmeter :thumbup: :D

In this sense, thank you again for your effort. But I consider the topic (insofar as it now continues to run) first as solved.
Of course, should anyone have any idea what it might have been ... I'm all ears
- Win11 Pro x64 (23H2 - 22631.3085)
- Rainmeter 4.5.18
- Gigabyte B550i AORUS Pro AX V1.2
- Corsair Venegeance LPX 2x 16GB (32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
- RYZEN 7 5800X
- PowerColor RX570 8GB
- Samsung 980Pro 250GB (NVMe) - Drive C: Windows
- Kingston SNV2S1000G (NVMe) - Drive D: Rainmeter, Skins & Others - Drive D: Games
- NAS Synology DS216j - 2x 1GB HDDs - My Main Backup & Data Storage in my Home-Network
- Mon 1: 24" HP 24f (1920 x 1080 @ 75Hz) - Primary
- Mon 2: 22" Philips 226VL (1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 1
- Mon 3: 50" Philips 50PUS7304/12 (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz) - Secondary 2
- Corsair CX 650M Power Supply
- NZXT H210 Case
- ISP Vodafone with 1000/50 Mbit Cable Internet

The absolutly High-End Machine on 2024 ... at least the graphics card :oops: O.O :rofl:
Ananda96
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Re: Crash of Rainmeter when using certain skins

Post by Ananda96 »

I'd like to jump into this issue, just registered to report the same trouble.
yesterda i actualized Win10 from very buggy retired OLD 1809 to 1903 fast ring and Rainmeter crashes on startup.
so i did a clean uninstall and wiped all folders and registry, then installed the latest Beta 4.3**** again and skin by skin, the skin who makes Rainmeter crash is ELEGANCE 2, this is a nice TIME and Date Skin i love to use...so then i figured out that ALL Time and Date RELATED skins make Rainmeter also crash again.
I'm not sure whether the creation Date has to do something with this, they are from 2011 if i am not reading it wrong...but yesterday with the buggy 1809 everything worked fine..
so anything what has do something with DATE doesn't work anymore, weather skins work fine....