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SilverAzide
Rainmeter Sage
Posts: 1553Joined: March 23rd, 2015, 5:26 pm
Post by SilverAzide April 25th, 2020, 9:31 pm
Yincognito wrote: ↑ April 25th, 2020, 9:33 am
That being said, I have a question for you, given that the topic is somewhat related to this and that you probably have more experience with this than I currently do: I'm trying to implement UsageMonitor's
Alias=GPU in my skins (well, the possibility to choose displaying this alias was always there, I just didn't think of testing it until now, given the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update or later requirement), and only get
Rainmeter.exe with around 1% to 2% usage, nothing else. The screenshot you posted
here appears to indicate that there should be more processes being displayed in the "Top GPU Meter", so my question is: am I doing something wrong to get only
Rainmeter.exe appearing to use my GPU, or it's just a tricky PerfMon counter that might provide inconsistent numbers or processes here, depending on the large variety of GPU cards?
By the way, I did read in your skins that
dwm.exe should be excluded from this, but I'm sure the fact that I'm not (yet) excluding it is not the cause for this, since, after all, the
dwm.exe is not even shown, and displaying only
Rainmeter.exe as using the GPU happens in your "gadget" as well.
Maybe you know some things that I don't regarding this, and could shed a light into this odd behavior, maybe?
You should eventually exclude dwm (Desktop Window Manager) once you get things finished with your skin. Per a conversation I had with tjhrulz (the UsageMonitor author, or Brian, I forget which), including dwm can get you wonky results because it appears that Windows itself ignores it. To best illustrate, take another look at that screenshot of the GPU Meter. You'll notice that the percentages add up to about 124%! It seems when Windows figures the percentages, it's ignoring DWM.
I'm not sure why you're not seeing more processes, unless maybe your card is so fast that it's not even being stressed to .1%... I'm using a older nVidia 970. Anytime I have Chrome open (not minimized, but open), I see it, plus that "csrss" process whatever that is. If you want to really see Chrome go nuts, go
HERE and try one of the WebGL fluid simulations. That's how I got the 60% value in the screenshot.
Yincognito
Rainmeter Sage
Posts: 4052Joined: February 27th, 2015, 2:38 pmLocation: Terra Yincognita
Post by Yincognito April 25th, 2020, 10:44 pm
SilverAzide wrote: ↑ April 25th, 2020, 9:31 pm
You should eventually exclude dwm (Desktop Window Manager) once you get things finished with your skin. Per a conversation I had with tjhrulz (the UsageMonitor author, or Brian, I forget which), including dwm can get you wonky results because it appears that Windows itself ignores it. To best illustrate, take another look at that screenshot of the GPU Meter. You'll notice that the percentages add up to about 124%! It seems when Windows figures the percentages, it's ignoring DWM.
I'm not sure why you're not seeing more processes, unless maybe your card is so fast that it's not even being stressed to .1%... I'm using a older nVidia 970. Anytime I have Chrome open (not minimized, but open), I see it, plus that "csrss" process whatever that is. If you want to really see Chrome go nuts, go
HERE and try one of the WebGL fluid simulations. That's how I got the 60% value in the screenshot.
Yeah, well, this is the result of clicking
Copy Properties in PerfMon. Basically, only one process is having non-zero values (towards the end of the list) - and that is, as you can probably imagine, Rainmeter. The rest yield zero values, although they have a Process ID and probably a name as well, after the PID to Name conversion. I tried closing MSI AB + RTSS as I set a few apps there as "non-3D", but it didn't make a difference. My video card is an AMD Radeon 7610M, so
much much slower than your "old" nVidia 970 video card, LOL. The odd thing is that Rainmeter produces non-zero values, while everything else is zero. I have no idea why this happens.
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SAngeli
Posts: 15Joined: January 13th, 2017, 8:17 pm
Post by SAngeli June 14th, 2020, 9:44 pm
Hi,not able to solve the problem.
balala
Rainmeter Sage
Posts: 13208Joined: October 11th, 2010, 6:27 pmLocation: Gheorgheni, Romania
Post by balala June 15th, 2020, 10:39 am
SAngeli wrote: ↑ June 14th, 2020, 9:44 pm
in conclusion to this post, I wish to inform you all and who will read this entire post in the future that I was
not able to solve the problem.
I did install Windows OS from scratch on the same pc, but this issue is not solved. Most likely, it is a hardware related issue: the way my hardware is assembled and configured. I have no other clue. I also contacted NVIDIA tech support, but this was just a waste of time!
I have to say, though, that I noticed a similar behavior in two other computers. It does not behave the same way, but I was able to make the installed skin flash.
Anyhow, I just decided to ignore this issue as it consumed a lot of my time and indeed it is not worth spending the time this way. Too bad for me.
Hopefully, when I will build my new workstation in the future hopefully all this will disappear. For the moment I stop here.
I'm a little bit lazy to re-read all topic so I'm not sure if it is the case, but if you didn't try, you could try disabling hardware acceleration, if it is enabled.
Sorry if this has been discussed before and I missed it.
SAngeli
Posts: 15Joined: January 13th, 2017, 8:17 pm
Post by SAngeli June 15th, 2020, 11:13 am
Hi,
balala
Rainmeter Sage
Posts: 13208Joined: October 11th, 2010, 6:27 pmLocation: Gheorgheni, Romania
Post by balala June 15th, 2020, 5:30 pm
SAngeli wrote: ↑ June 15th, 2020, 11:13 am
I tried already with and without hardware acceleration. It makes little difference.
Alright. Sorry it didn't fix the problem.
FluorescentAdolescen
Posts: 1Joined: February 8th, 2021, 6:28 pm
Post by FluorescentAdolescen February 8th, 2021, 6:32 pm
I think you should just upgrade your graphics card. I think it's no secret that NVidia specifically underestimates the performance of older graphics cards. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about it. Because of this, I looked at the guide for building a top-end pc in 2021 here
https://gadgetguide.in since I'm about to start streaming call of duty with my friends right now. Unfortunately, due to the growth of bitcoin, the prices of video cards have increased even more as people start mining more and more. I hope it will end soon...
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SAngeli
Posts: 15Joined: January 13th, 2017, 8:17 pm
Post by SAngeli February 8th, 2021, 6:58 pm
Now I'm facing the same problem. Is there a solution?
SilverAzide
Rainmeter Sage
Posts: 1553Joined: March 23rd, 2015, 5:26 pm
Post by SilverAzide February 8th, 2021, 7:04 pm
FluorescentAdolescen wrote: ↑ February 8th, 2021, 6:32 pm
Now I'm facing the same problem. Is there a solution?
It might help if you described what steps you've taken so far, and which skins you are referring to. This problem seems to be caused by a video driver issue, but it is unclear what can be done about it other than installing the latest driver and try the Rainmeter hardware acceleration option (on or off).
SAngeli
Posts: 15Joined: January 13th, 2017, 8:17 pm
Post by SAngeli February 9th, 2021, 5:43 pm
Hi,
